TO ALL SUMMONED

[divinityfrompain]

Soooo this is weird and my first post on here hi.

Has anyone gone to the Singularity and tried to talk to it? Because I just did and I'm going to try to describe it but I'm not sure if this is relevant.

First of all oh boy does it have strong feelings! It threw a whole lot at me all at once, all negative, it's not having a good time.

I couldn't get like an exact thought or explanation, it was all emotions, but one thing that struck me is that it felt jealous and spiteful about something, but I have no idea what. The jealousy was clear but unspecific, so I don't know who to, or what about, I'm sorry. It's generally upset.

I don't think this is helpful because I couldn't convince it of anything or make it stop, but in case you were like 'hey is the Singularity going through something' the answer is 'yeah it's full of feels.'

I don't know if it would talk to everyone so I don't know that I'd advise it, but yeah. IDK.

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[aquaveiled]

I haven't, no. But as others have said, it doesn't sound like it would be too surprising that the world at large would be upset right now.

[ After saying goodbye to the Mother Crystal back on Etheirys, the thought of going to the Singularity makes her a little sad. But that's neither here nor there. ]

But jealous? That's interesting...

Are you feeling alright after all of that?

[divinityfrompain]

It did stand out to me, because it is such a precise emotion, you know? Like you can't mistake it when you feel it. I just don't know what exactly would make it feel that way.

[aquaveiled]

Yes, I would agree. What would make a giant monolith jealous? Mayhaps it doesn't like where it's situated?

[ Being in the desert doesn't sound fun. ]

Is this something you did back on your star?

[divinityfrompain]

Maybe it didn't like what happened with the artifact, I don't know. The actions seem so close together, it would be weird if it's not connected.

Not actively, but I had the ability. I could have talked to higher beings/beings on other planes of existence, but I hadn't tried yet.

[aquaveiled]

Hmm...do you think it would have preferred had the keys been destroyed? It seemed too dangerous to me at the time like you know eviscerating everyone in the vicinity, but I wonder if it knows something that we don't.

Were they usually like this? When I've made contact with the gods here, they were usually in the form of visions or actual words exchanged.

[divinityfrompain]

I'm not sure. It could be the clown god? Maybe it hates the clown and wanted it gone. At this point we can only guess, but something clearly set it off, and that's the only thing that happened most recently.

I don't know, but I think so yeah. They were also called the Old Gods, which is weird considering Solvunn, but the way I've heard of them, they don't think of ordinary mortals as anything more than like a collection of cells or pieces of stardust. Even their children are tiny compared to them, but they do care about their kids. If you kill one, consequences happen, it happened to us where they shut down magic so no one else could use it as punishment. So they have some way of thinking, I'm not sure if they talk or think like the rest of us do though.

[aquaveiled]

Mayhaps that's true. People were definitely hurt in what happened, so I can't say I blame it. Though what "gone" may mean...

[ Would the Singularity want a god killed?? ]

It does seem a little more nebulous but they are unique, aren't they? They have their own goals and personalities. The Kami, the Twelve, and Primals are much the same on my star as well.

More reasons I think we have more in common than our worlds have differences!

That being said, I don't know if any of the Old Gods have ever been dealt with in that way. I admit that I originally thought that they were something we would need to contend with either as like manifested deities based on local beliefs and stuff or if they needed to be destroyed. But now I'm not so sure.

[divinityfrompain]

I have my issues with gods, believe me, but I don't really think it's our place to come in here and try to murder their gods. As long as they aren't going around trying to burn down the world, obviously! I've already killed a god who was doing that (I was the backup on that one, but still). Or if in self-defense, I'm not going to tell people to sit there and take it.

But. It's possible they are keeping this world together, like their life force is literally tied to the land's wellbeing. Who knows what Solvunn would have to do without them? They could survive, sure, but it could set them back centuries, if the world doesn't start to die without them. Just bigger picture concerns when it comes to them.

[aquaveiled]

I agree wholeheartedly!

I do think that the gods here are an intricate part of the world, though to the extent that they're vital to it's balance and whatnot, I cannot say. At the very least my own experiences here have been largely positive. Mostly.

[ Is trying to form a connection with Koth a bad idea? Yes. Is she still trying it anyway? Yes. ]

I do wonder how they may have changed over the centuries.

Or if the Singularity is just some really central old god whose locked themselves away in a crystalline cocoon or something.

[divinityfrompain]

If you think about it, the world is a balance, so you tip all the scales in one end, remove all the gods, it might completely imbalance the natural order. If they're not actively trying to murder people or end planets like they did in my world, they're just going about their lives here.

It's possible. The Singularity could be the original god or the source of all power here, the center of the planet. It is more real and sentient than I expected, that's for sure.

[aquaveiled]

I do think you're right. I admit my initial thoughts were colored a lot by my previous experienced with Summoned gods being used for ill, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. It's a nice change!

If it really does have thoughts and feelings

[ There's a pause as Himeka clearly doesn't finish that sentence. But she eventually continues. ]

Again I'm probably thinking too much of my own star, but it was essentially created by a large crystalline deity we called the Mother Crystal. There were specific people she would form connections with who hear her thoughts and help protect the world. Basically.

[ Leaving out all the complications about the original world being sundered into pieces and the whole primal vs. primal violence that ensued but--you know. Similar concept! ]

[divinityfrompain]

It's difficult not to bring personal feelings and experiences into it. I'm pretty sure we all have that problem. I don't think anyone is using these gods for anything, they're doing their own things. But the question for me is if they're as powerful as the Singularity or if their power even derives from it. If the latter was the case, one of them wouldn't be able to anger it so much.

That sounds like it might be possible here. Someone told me that it does seem to pick specific people, but I'm not sure if it's intentionally doing that or most people don't know how to talk to it. It may very well be fine with any of you trying to communicate, but it's not sure how yet. We're all allowed in the Horizon, so we all should be connected.

[aquaveiled]

Based on the mythology I assume it's that they came from the Singularity, but who really knows? I suppose we could ask them or mayhaps you could ask the Singularity? If it's able to tell you.

That could be very true... It is a little daunting, isn't it? This monolith that the dissent between these nations is based on. That we're connected to it.

[divinityfrompain]

So I guess that brings me back to why is Fred able to annoy it so much? It seems like it would be able to kick him out. If Fred was held in the artifact like some people think he was, though, maybe it was very much an "I was hoping never to see you again" vibe.

We definitely are. It might be worth it for everyone to try and at least visit it. It's better to get a grip on what connects us than avoid it.

[aquaveiled]

That's true...or maybe it isn't as all powerful as we thought? We don't really know how other Summoned return to our worlds. What if the Singularity can pull people in but can't make them leave?

Or mayhaps the Singularity just didn't think it was funny?

I suppose that's true. I admit that I've had some reservations. Tempering, mostly.

[divinityfrompain]

I'm too new to know, I don't think anyone knows for sure how people are sent away, right?

[aquaveiled]

No, I don't think so. Or at least I don't know of anyone who does. But it does happen somehow.

[divinityfrompain]

You'd think that if the territories are doing it, we'd probably know. I feel like they'd use it as a threat to keep us in line if we wanted to stay. So it could either be the Singularity doing it, or maybe the spell wears off on some people faster than others.

[aquaveiled]

The spell wears off? You mean like there's a spell that's keeping us here? I hadn't thought about that...

[ She'd been assuming it was the same as G'raha throwing spaghetti at a wall of the Crystarium and seeing what sticks trying to summon Himeka and the other Scions to the First. ]

[divinityfrompain]

The spell that brought us here in the first place probably holds us here too.

[aquaveiled]

I do believe we're still tethered to our stars in some way. But that does make me wonder if someone could figure out how to break that spell.

[divinityfrompain]

I'm not sure. Some spells can be broken but some can't. It depends on who does them and then factors afterward. The Singularity probably makes it more difficult to dispel. Once we're here, it hooks into us, otherwise we wouldn't have access to its land. When higher powers get involved, spells done by normal mages go awry.

AKA, I doubt breaking the spell would matter, if the connection to the Singularity still exists.

[aquaveiled]

I admit I'm not really adept at breaking spells, just making them. But it'd be curious to see what would happen...

Are you?

[divinityfrompain]

Yes. But not in a way I'd feel comfortable doing it without closer knowledge of the spell in question.

[aquaveiled]

Mayhaps we can ask the Council? Not long after I arrived, a friend of mine at the time had a meeting with Winifred. She'd implied that information we gave during our arrival helped them perfect their own Summoning ritual.