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Yo, it's ya girl, Gideon.
So I kinda wanted to just bounce this off a bunch of people, you know? To get an impartial perspective. It's something I've been thinking about for a while, but I wanna hear other takes on this please and thanks.
Say there's this Empire of necromancers, right? The Empire stretches over a whole bunch of planets, nine home planets and then lots of others that act as necromancy fuel or some shit.
The Empire is ruled by this one guy, who is God. He was also just some dude at some point before the resurrection but now he's God. For reasons. Don't ask me about the reasons, I don't know the answer.
Like 10, 000 or so years ago there was some catastrophe that wiped out all life on all these planets, and then God came along - he's also a necromancer, by the way - and resurrected everyone.
So now he has this Empire where a bunch of people are necromancers and some are just regular folk with no aptitude for necromancy. And he's got like, this huge military force made up of necros and soldiers and battle ships and weapons and stuff. And this military force fights to protect God and the Empire from his enemies who wanna destroy him and all his people for like, no good reason at all. Jealousy, maybe.
This is a very condensed version, but yeah. What I wanna know is, what does this sound like to you? Totally reasonable behaviour or like...something else?
Anyway, come at me.
So I kinda wanted to just bounce this off a bunch of people, you know? To get an impartial perspective. It's something I've been thinking about for a while, but I wanna hear other takes on this please and thanks.
Say there's this Empire of necromancers, right? The Empire stretches over a whole bunch of planets, nine home planets and then lots of others that act as necromancy fuel or some shit.
The Empire is ruled by this one guy, who is God. He was also just some dude at some point before the resurrection but now he's God. For reasons. Don't ask me about the reasons, I don't know the answer.
Like 10, 000 or so years ago there was some catastrophe that wiped out all life on all these planets, and then God came along - he's also a necromancer, by the way - and resurrected everyone.
So now he has this Empire where a bunch of people are necromancers and some are just regular folk with no aptitude for necromancy. And he's got like, this huge military force made up of necros and soldiers and battle ships and weapons and stuff. And this military force fights to protect God and the Empire from his enemies who wanna destroy him and all his people for like, no good reason at all. Jealousy, maybe.
This is a very condensed version, but yeah. What I wanna know is, what does this sound like to you? Totally reasonable behaviour or like...something else?
Anyway, come at me.
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[It feels relevant to ask. It feels like "Why is he god?" is, in fact, the most relevant question a person could ask, in response to this.]
...But uh. No. Not a lot of that sounds reasonable, to me. I mean, I was with you right up until the god part. Everything starting with the part where your emperor insists he's a god is a little fucked up.
But then, I also tend to feel like most dead things ought to stay dead, and I know enough by now to recognize that that isn't really a popular opinion where you're from, Gideon.
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Also though...yeeeaaaah, that's one of the big parts that really has me wondering. I've been here a while. Obviously I've noticed that most people would be pretty upset if we took all the bones out of the graveyard and made them into servants who did like, the farming and shit. People get real riled up if you say things like 'finders, keepers!' about the dead.
I get it. It's creepy, right? Except it wasn't. I even felt kinda weirded out about the lack of skeletons when I first got here.
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That said, if anybody ever tries to bring any part of me back... [Or, well, does it again anyways.] ...They better hope they can run pretty damn fast.
Because I've seen gods die before, and they go down just like everybody else.
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I just kinda wonder if maybe we were the cult all along. Not just the actual cult I was in. I mean like, the whole Empire.
And I don't know, man. I guess he must be able to die, but you'd have to get near him first. Past the Cohort, past the lyctors...although lyctors can die. I should know. Me and my necromancer took one out.
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You might have a point about the cult idea, though. Then again, some people call the marines a cult, too, so I might not be the best judge.
[Real power tends to be quieter; a proper god, if any existed, would never need to argue its own veracity, and wouldn't need guards or empires to protect its interests.]
So Lyctors are pretty tough? Beating one of them sounds like a story.
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GTN spoilers upcoming!
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tl;dr incoming
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But a man is not a god, not even if he has stepped out of the grave or his funeral fires. He is only a man with more power than most. What he does then matters.
Is he only fighting to protect his people? Does he put them above himself?
[Thank the gods Jon isn't taking this personally.]
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[The chances that those were propaganda comics she was reading? Very high.]
And I don't know. He brought whole worlds and all the people back from extinction? Except the enemies, I guess? It sounds like something only a god could do. I don't think he ever died himself, but I never really got the whole 'man who became God and God who was a man' thing. I didn't ever really think about it much until I came here.
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Why does he have enemies? That's the question — who his enemies are. And if he didn't bring them back, how are they there?
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[She's heard a good few of Jaskier's ballads. They're not all that different.]
But yeah, fair one. I never really questioned it, you know? If his enemies wanna destroy him and all the Nine Houses then they've just gotta be mindlessly evil...or that's how it was always portrayed. But like, is all of Thorne evil because their ruler decided to blow the shit out of Libertas? No. Were all those acolytes evil because they got caught up in a dumb cult and believed they were doing the right thing? I don't think so.
I know next to nothing about the Emperor's enemies. But like, looking at it from the outside, from here, where most people's cultures don't involve playing around with bones for shits and giggles? I just have some questions, you know?
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Why is your home sphere Like This?
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But to genuinely answer your question: this sounds like basic human nature when someone has too much power.
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It's a mind-fuck. But it’s just another one of those things that everyone knew, like oh okay sure. I just didn’t think about whether it made sense of not.
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And yeah, I just always thought it made sense you know? If someone attacks God and his people they've gotta be like, evil beyond all reason. But when you stop and think about all the messing around with dead bodies stuff, you've just gotta wonder? It was normal before. But meeting so many people here who look at me like I've grown a second head whenever I talk about that stuff raises some questions.
I never did wonder that, no. Although someone else here mentioned it to me once. But like, it makes no sense? Why would he cause the catastrophe only to resurrect everything?
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Are you talking from personal experience? Did you know personally know a God?
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Or your lack of it, if that's the case.
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And I guess you're right in a way. I'm just trying to figure some shit out, you know? Like, were we the bad guys all along? Is it ever as simple as that? That kinda thing.
I'm laughing to myself realizing both their gods are 'John'
In his own case, meeting John as a mortal didn't do anything to make him question the Rifter. ]
No, I guess that makes sense. I think most people have the same questions.
[ Except for him. The fanatic. ]
Who are his enemies that his army fights?
omg that's so funny!
And I don't really know who his enemies are? They wanna destroy him and all of the Nine Houses, I do know that much. Until pretty recently I just figured anyone who wanted to destroy god has gotta be a gigantic bag of dicks, you know? But now I've gotta wonder if he did something to deserve it.
You know. Like the necromancy, maybe.
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There will always be fanatics.
Reasonable or not-- now that's all a matter of perspective. Where do you stand?
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But Thorne and The Free Cities, and all the people who just got caught up in it and died? The shit that went down in the pit...there was nothing righteous or glorious in any of that.
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